The Elvish Room

[Niphredil]

Creoso Tarwen

That link appears to be an entire course in Quenya.

Perhaps you could post some of the words you have learned.
It's nice to find others keen to learn Elvish.

[LadyArwenUndómiel]

Thanx for helping me out! Here are some Elvish words which you may want to know:

[LadyArwenUndómiel]

Sorry, I accidentally hit send! Here are some words which I know, but once I officially send the mailing attachment from my mailing list, there will be more words. Thank you for understanding!


A
adan = humans
aeglin = lake, pool
aglar = glory, brilliance
aina = holy
alda = tree (quenya)
alqua = swan (sindarian)
amarth = doom
amon = hill
anca = jaws
an(d) = long
andune = sunset, west
anga = iron
anna = gift
annon = great door or gate
ar- = beside, outside
ar(a) = high, noble, royal
arien = sunlight
atar = father

B
band = prison, duress
bar = dwelling
barad = tower
beleg = mighty
bragol = sudden
brethil = silver birch
brith = gravel

C
calen (galen) = green (sindarian)
cam = hand
carak = fang (quenya)
caram = red (quenya)
celeb = silver
coron = mound
cu = bow
cuivie = awakening
cul = golden-red
curu = skill

D
dae = shadow
dagor = battle
del = horror
din = silent
dol = head
dor = land
draug = wolf
du = night, dimness
duin = river
dur = dark

E
ear = sea
echor = encirling mountains
edhel = elf (sindarian)
eithel = well
el (elen) = star
er = one, alone
ereg = thorn, holly
esgal = screen, hiding

F
falas = shore, line of surf
faroth = hunt, pursue
faug- = gape
fea = spirit
fin- = hair
formen = north
fuin = gloom, darkness

G:
gaer = sea
galad = light, radiance
galadh = tree (Sindarian)
gaur = wolf
gil = star
girith = shuddering
glin = gleam
gond = stone
gor = horror, dread
groth (grod) = delving,   underground dwelling
gul = sorcery
gurth = death
gwaith = people
gwath (wath) = shadow

H:
hadhod = Kazad (as in Kazad-dum)
haudh = mound
heru = lord
him = cool
hini = children
hith = mist
hoth = host, horde (used in a bad way)
hyarmen = south

I:
ia = void, abyss
iant = bridge
iath = fence
iaur = old
iluve = whole, all

*Sorry, no J! (I don't know any)

K:
kal (gal) = shine
kano = commander
kel = go away
kemen = earth
khelek = ice
khil = follow
kir = cut, cleave

L:
lad = plain, valley
laure = gold (of light and color, not as in the metal)
lhach = leaping flame
lin (1) = pool, mere
lin (2) = sing, make a musical sound
lith = ash
lok = bend, loop
lom = echo
lome = dusk
londe = land-locked haven
los = snow
loth = flower
luin = blue

M:
maeg = sharp, piercing
mal = gold
man = good, blessed
mel = love
men = way
menel = the heavens
mereth = feast
minas = towe4r
mir = jewel
mith = grey
mor = dark
moth = dusk

N:
nan(d) = valley
nar = fire
naug = dwarf
(n)dil = devotion to personal things
(n)dur = same as (n)dil
neldor = beech
nen = water
nim = white

O:
orn = tree
orod = mountain
os(t) = fortress

P:
palan = far and wide
pel = go around, encircle

Q:
quen = say, speak
quel = good

R:
ram = wall
ran = wander, stray
rant = course
ras = horn
rauko = demon
ril = brilliance
rim = great number, host
ring = cold, chill
ris = cleave
roch = horse
romen = uprising, sunrise, east
rond = arched roof, dome
ros = foam, spray, spindrift
ruin = red flame
ruth = anger

S:
sarn = pebble, small stone
sereg = blood
sil = shine (with white or silver light)
sir = river, flow
sul = wind

T:
tal(dal) = foot, end
talath = falt lands, plain
tar = high
tathar = willow
taur = wood, forest
tel = finish, end, be last
thalion = strong
thang = oppression
thar = across
thaur = abominable, abhorrent
thin(d) = grey
thol = helm
thon = pine-tree
thoron = eagle
til = point, horn
tin = sparkle
tir = watch, to watch over
tol = isle
tum = valley
tur = power, mastery

U:
uial = twilight
ur = heath, be hot

V:
val = power

W:
wen = maiden
wing = foam, spray

*Sorry, no X! (I don't know any)

Y:
yave = fruit

*Sorry, no Z! (I don't know any)

[Niphredil]

Wow  

Thanks Arwen!

[Rhiannon]

I always mix this one up but Quenya was modelled after Finnish whereas Sindarin is very close to Welsh. As I speak Welsh myself (though a bit out of practice right now...) I'll be glad to help if I can. E.g. at this strange 'mutation' thingy....

To give you some examples

Welsh -English- Elvish
croeso-welcome-creoso
du-      black-      du (night, dark)
eithaf- well-     eithel

If you want to learn about pronounciation and intonation, check this one out:
www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/live/rc-live.ram
It's a Welsh online Radio station
THey also have some really strange music (if you want to find out how the Welsh cover version of e.g. Metallica sounds, go here....

(requires something like Real Player)

[Niphredil]

I love your smileys Rhiannon!
How come you speak Welsh?

[Rhiannon]

I really love this country. Got some celtic heritage myself. And it always comes in handy when reading  fantasy literature... You wouldn't believe how many authors borrowed words and names from Welsh...many even without changing them.  ;D

[Imrel]

so- help a confused elven atateur- are quenya and sindarin two entirely different languages? or variations on eachother?

btw, neat, celeborn (of lothlorien) means "silvertree".

[Niphredil]

Good question Firebird. I'm not sure. Some words seem very similar in Sindarin and Quenya. I know that Quenya is a more complete language and apparently easier to learn.

[Imrel]

alrighty then- thank you.

[Niphredil]

Tolkien was also constantly changing and updating the languages which makes it even more confusing.

[Rhiannon]

As far as I know (...) Quenya and Sindarin are different languages (originating from different times and spoken by different parts of the Elvish population). If you want to find out about this kind of stuff, read 'The Book Of Lost Tales' a history of Middle Earth, annotated by Christopher Tolkien. But be warned: it's really a history book. No easy reading...

[Niphredil]

Quenya was a more formal language used for ceremonial purposes and for high matters of lore and song.
Sindarin was the common tongue.

[Imrel]

interesting. (history is no easy reading indeed, i had problems with the sil.!)

[Niphredil]

It's amazing really isn't it? How complex it all is and the attention to detail. You really start to believe that it's a factual book about a real place.